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Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby billbloke » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:30 pm

Gents, your advice is needed badly.
After a pay and play session earlier this year, I made the mistake of not cleaning the Disco, rather simply parking the truck at home and leaving the windows open to allow the interior to dry out. (There’s a reason I mentioned the fact that it filled with water).
Anyway, last weekend I decided to thoroughly clean it with a pressure washer. This included the engine and engine bay. The complete underside and the interior floor.

I charged up the battery and tried to start it up after. This is where my problem was noticed.
The key fob which unlocks it and disables the immobiliser doesn’t seem to work now.
I put a new battery into the fob to rule that out but still no joy.
I suspect that some component of the immobiliser/ alarm, has gotten wet or damaged and this is the issue.
Problem is I have no clue what to look at.
When I switch the ignition on a signal on the clock lights up red displaying a car with a key in the middle.
I’d be grateful for any thoughts you might have.
Many thanks in advance.


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby Sharky » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:43 pm

Hi Bill, is this from our trip to Slindon when you decided to go swimming whilst wearing a Land Rover?
It does sound like a problem with the immobiliser, they are prone to playing up and they definitely do not like water, I had mine removed and an aftermarket one fitted as it was getting very temperamental. I’m afraid I can’t offer any advice as to what to look at as I had mine done at an auto electricians, I can let you know where if you like, he’s excellent, but he’s in Southampton. Drop me a message if you would like his details, hope you get it sorted soon mate 8)



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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby mudmagnet » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:36 pm

You can bypass the immobiliser with a bypass plug
Part no AMR 4956
You can Google how easy / difficult it is to fit
I have this part somewhere in my garage I will have a look to see if I can find it
Have you tried starting it by putting a wire from the spade connection on the starter solonoid and touching it onto the + battery terminal with the ignition on this is how I started mine when I had immobiliser problems


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby mudmagnet » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:51 pm

If you do require the bypass plug
I have a new one that you can have that i can post to you


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby billbloke » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:26 pm

Sharky wrote:Hi Bill, is this from our trip to Slindon when you decided to go swimming whilst wearing a Land Rover?
It does sound like a problem with the immobiliser, they are prone to playing up and they definitely do not like water, I had mine removed and an aftermarket one fitted as it was getting very temperamental. I’m afraid I can’t offer any advice as to what to look at as I had mine done at an auto electricians, I can let you know where if you like, he’s excellent, but he’s in Southampton. Drop me a message if you would like his details, hope you get it sorted soon mate 8)

Heheh. Swimming while wearing a Landrover is about right.
I’ll let you know if inbred the services of your friendly engineer. Cheers Mate


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby billbloke » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:37 pm

mudmagnet wrote:You can bypass the immobiliser with a bypass plug
Part no AMR 4956
You can Google how easy / difficult it is to fit
I have this part somewhere in my garage I will have a look to see if I can find it
Have you tried starting it by putting a wire from the spade connection on the starter solonoid and touching it onto the + battery terminal with the ignition on this is how I started mine when I had immobiliser problems

Thanks Mate. I’ll give the wire direct to the battery a try. I did this on my old one, so it’s a familiar trip.
I’ll let you know if I need the bypass plug, so thanks for that mate.
Have you ever had the heater control and dashboard off. If so, how difficult was it?


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby mudmagnet » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:14 pm

No luckily I didn't have to remove anything as mine didn't have the alarm spider that needed bypassing but there is a write up how to do it on lr4x4 forum


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby billbloke » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:44 pm

So this isnt getting any easier.
Tried the wire from the starter to the battery. Done this on my old Landy so knew how to do this.
Bugger still didn’t crank over.
So pulled out the heater control panel. Rather painful. Guess what? No alarm spider as expected. Am I being stupid here? Is this an item which should be clearly visible behind the heater control panel or is it hidden further?
I read on one of the forums that they were sometimes fitted under the seat box. Looked there but nothing doing.
I’ve also read that if the red light with the key symbol flashes, it means that the immobiliser is active and bypassing it will not solve the issue. So all the above may have been for nothing.
I think I may have to accept defeat and get the breakdown service to take it into a friendly garage for diagnostic.
Unless anyone has any bright ideas.


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby mudmagnet » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:32 am

Can you enter your eka code
You have to do it by turning your key in the door a number of times there's lots of you tube videos showing how to enter the code
That's assuming you know the code for your car


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby billbloke » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:51 pm

mudmagnet wrote:Can you enter your eka code
You have to do it by turning your key in the door a number of times there's lots of you tube videos showing how to enter the code
That's assuming you know the code for your car

That did cross my mind but guess what? The drivers door lock is faulty and doesn’t let me turn to the lock position.
I’ve been reading some comments in another forum and the general consensus is that my model year doesn’t have the unit behind the dash, so the bypass plug is not an option.
This is kind of good news as I was beginning to think that I was going nuts as I couldn’t find It after I removed the heater control panel.
What they have said is that there is an alarm ecu behind the glove box which will be vulnerable to water ingress and also prone to playing up.
I’ll pull that out and take a look when I have time.


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby Davey Boy » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:29 pm

Hi Bill
Keep positive, it'll be something simple and water related i'm sure :gr8:
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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby billbloke » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:02 pm

Davey Boy wrote:Hi Bill
Keep positive, it'll be something simple and water related i'm sure :gr8:
Davey

I’m certain of that Dave.
To be fair, I’m not stressing as the season hasn’t really begun so there’s no pressure.
Except from the Mrs, as the truck is currently parked against the hedge which she wants me to trim.
So from my point of view, the longer it takes the better. :lol:


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby Davey Boy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:24 pm

:) :gr8:


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Re: Heeellpppp!!!!

Postby billbloke » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:19 pm

So, after pulling out the heater control panel, I discovered that my particular model year doesn’t have the wiring harnesses to attach a bypass plug to.
Put the panel back, have a few screws left over but it hasn’t fallen out, all good.
I read on another forum that there is an alarm ecu under the glove box. One thread described how a bloke often has trouble with his but a mighty kick usually sorts it out.
I tried this remedy. The result being that the hazard lights came on and would only go out when I disconnected the battery.
I’m currently sitting at home waiting for my mate to get here with a recovery truck. It’s going to a local mechanic for them to look at it for me.
On the plus side, I’ve just realised that the mot ran out in August, so he will get that sorted while he has it.
The good news is that it’ll be road ready for the Aldermaston trip next month.
Thanks for all the advice and words of encouragement. They never helped a bit. :rofl:


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