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Re: summer week in the highlands

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:52 pm
by ratrace
might take a look at scotland for a trip

summer week in the highlands

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:49 pm
by b2mey
Did any thing come off this?

Re: summer week in the highlands

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:07 pm
by maadmaan10
Would definitely have to be combined with something else - that is a hell of along way to go for one day!!

What about; Meet at Lake district, do a day laning. Camp overnight. Travel to Highlands at a leisurely pace,camp. Do trip next day. Camp.
Travel back down to a midway point for a days laning.camp-home. Still a hell of a lot of miles and fuel, but FUN. While there is,as said, little or no green or brown stuff, it is worth the trip even just for the breathtaking scenery!

Re: summer week in the highlands

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:01 pm
by clarkey
1st I don't want any one getting the rong idea :angry: I don't want to go up Scotland and turn up the earth I missed gates Garth two times so went to Wales. With a friend and done all the lanes that were open from north to south it lovely best thing I've done for ages that was a year ago now I know this post is old but still very much in debate has I'm sure a lot of you would like the same as me just somewhere we can drive with total care slow pace lovely senic views stop and camp for the night in peaceful home grown paradise I thot of Scotland because once passed the two main city's it seems very open and we wouldn't bother know one I suppose just simple sense of freedom and independence being able to survive in wilderness like having to Cary fuel because there are no fuel stations :mrgreen: pay and plays are ok for an hour or two but after a while I feel like im going round in a goldfish bowl and wouldn't go all the way to Scotland for one if there is a trip in the making for some laning I would love to go has I think all fwdc events are well planed there is the highlands 4 wheel drive club and there pics look great and if they could show some hospitality that would be great :gr8: thanks for reading ;)

Re: summer week in the highlands

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:08 pm
by b2mey
clarkey wrote:1st I don't want any one getting the rong idea :angry: I don't want to go up Scotland and turn up the earth I missed gates Garth two times so went to Wales. With a friend and done all the lanes that were open from north to south it lovely best thing I've done for ages that was a year ago now I know this post is old but still very much in debate has I'm sure a lot of you would like the same as me just somewhere we can drive with total care slow pace lovely senic views stop and camp for the night in peaceful home grown paradise I thot of Scotland because once passed the two main city's it seems very open and we wouldn't bother know one I suppose just simple sense of freedom and independence being able to survive in wilderness like having to Cary fuel because there are no fuel stations :mrgreen: pay and plays are ok for an hour or two but after a while I feel like im going round in a goldfish bowl and wouldn't go all the way to Scotland for one if there is a trip in the making for some laning I would love to go has I think all fwdc events are well planed there is the highlands 4 wheel drive club and there pics look great and if they could show some hospitality that would be great :gr8: thanks for reading ;)



I'm wirh you I think it be an amazing trip and experience to be away from it all:)

Re: summer week in the highlands

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:04 pm
by ayresy
think i'd be with you on that aswell, It would just be nice to get away and do something different and after the views at the lake district im sure scotland would be equally as good! so if anything does come of this thread i am very interested!

Re: summer week in the highlands

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:11 pm
by Posh Bloke
As I understand it, Scotland operates a "right to roam", meaning there are no footpaths as such, but you can go pretty much anywhere ON FOOT. There are no byways either, but I was told that the "right to roam" does not extend to vehicular access. This means the only off-roading you'd be able to do in Scotland would be at pay & play sites or with land owner's permission, for example when the Forestry Comission occasionally open their tracks to clubs for organised events.

I was told this by a member of a Toyota Surf forum who is into laning and lives in Scotland. He could of course be wrong, but I would definitely find out for sure what your access rights are before travelling that far.

It's a shame because as others have already said, the scenery up there is spectacular. My dad lives up North of Ullapool, in the North West. I've been to visit a few times in my Surf and was itching to drive some of the tracks and trails we saw!

Re: summer week in the highlands

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:50 am
by Ecoman
Posh Bloke wrote:As I understand it, Scotland operates a "right to roam", meaning there are no footpaths as such, but you can go pretty much anywhere ON FOOT. There are no byways either, but I was told that the "right to roam" does not extend to vehicular access. This means the only off-roading you'd be able to do in Scotland would be at pay & play sites or with land owner's permission, for example when the Forestry Comission occasionally open their tracks to clubs for organised events.

I was told this by a member of a Toyota Surf forum who is into laning and lives in Scotland. He could of course be wrong, but I would definitely find out for sure what your access rights are before travelling that far.

It's a shame because as others have already said, the scenery up there is spectacular. My dad lives up North of Ullapool, in the North West. I've been to visit a few times in my Surf and was itching to drive some of the tracks and trails we saw!

Your friend is exactly right. Although Scotland is a stunning country there are virtually no green lanes. All the land is either National Park, Forestry Commission or belongs to a Land Owner of some sort.

Right to roam means on foot or on horseback. It does not extend to motorised vehicles unless by express permission. If you have a particular route in mind and would like to drive from, lets say, Ullapool to Ardgay via Lubachoinnich by way of estate tracks, then you would have to contact the Croik Estate and the Rhidoroch estate that manage those pieces of land as ask their permission to drive along the lanes. I know this route well and have now driven it 4 times. I have stayed at the Knockdamph bothy a few times now and I can honestly say its a stunning drive but make sure you run mud tyres and always travel with 2 or more vehicles as some of the lanes can either be washed away or deep mud.

Many land owners do not begrudge somebody driving along their lanes so long as you ask their permission first. The Forestry Commission are a different story altogether though . Its really difficult to get permission to drive forestry tracks and it can take months to get a reply and its usually a flat rejection!

Forestry roads are constantly changing and roads that exist on OS maps can be gone before the map has even been published. I know this from experience

I live on the Isle of Arran and even I cant drive up the track that runs up the side of my house without permission from the water authority as they own and maintain it. If I was caught on it without permission I could be liable to prosecution. The courts are leaning more and more in the direction of the land owners and are giving out huge fines to make an example of the perpetrators and therefore discourage any people thinking of doing the same. If you have written permission from the land owner and you act responsibly then you have nothing to fear.

Re: summer week in the highlands

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:25 pm
by clarkey
we could mix it up drive up in our every day 4x4s i know we have em see the sites and do the soft tracks for the senerie then hire horses and go free roming iv only been on a horse once but there are 4legDRIVE :mrgreen: